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Old Aug 03, 2009, 04:42 PM // 16:42   #21
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After almost 4 years and beating all games I feel I deserve the perfect drops. I'm sure many other can speak for that too.
I won't even begin to go into how blatantly idiotic this statement is...
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Old Aug 03, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14   #22
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You're paying for the best. Therefore, it should be the best.

I would find this annoying as well.
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Old Aug 03, 2009, 05:42 PM // 17:42   #23
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1 damage is the difference between 100k for a q9 dryad or 150e. Tell everyone that buys them for 150e that.
I will.

Having such a massive difference over one point of damage is retarded.
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Old Aug 03, 2009, 07:41 PM // 19:41   #24
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Yes a guildie of mine also got a 14-28 Dryad Bow recently.
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 01:53 PM // 13:53   #25
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CUSTOMIZE IT THEN!!! theres ya 1 extra damage
thats like being stuck with the same women for 50 years...

my main problem with this is, why does only the dryad bow come out 14-28, its an end chest. thats pretty bad. actually i have seen a non insc bds that was pretty harsh
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 02:50 PM // 14:50   #26
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actually i have seen a non insc bds that was pretty harsh
Screenshot or it didn't happen. The BDS comes from only one place, a dungeon end chest in eotn. All blues/purples/golds in eotn are inscribable.

Edit: deathbane bug? on eotn end chest items?

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Old Sep 09, 2009, 03:11 PM // 15:11   #27
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Screenshot or it didn't happen. The BDS comes from only one place, a dungeon end chest in eotn. All blues/purples/golds in eotn are inscribable.

Edit: deathbane bug? on eotn end chest items?
Its rare, but non-inscribable weapons can drop in Eye of the North. I don't have any screenshots, but I have had purples and blues drop with no inscription slot. Probably about 4-5 total in my year of playing Eye of the North.
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #28
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http://i28.tinypic.com/s2tok3.jpg

not terrible mods but still not inscribable
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #29
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http://i28.tinypic.com/s2tok3.jpg

not terrible mods but still not inscribable
lol no mid mod, that sucks.
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #30
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*Looks at favorite pair of q9 celestial daggers*
...7-16?
This whole time I thought 7-16 was max on daggers.

I am dissapoint.
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #31
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Wow, this thread reminded me of my non-max silverwing recurve bow that I had to sell for half the original price... I cried so much on the inside. The fact that anything drops non-max in an end chest is a cruel joke.
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 08:57 PM // 20:57   #32
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It seems kinda like a bug to me. High end chests drop always R9-13 so weapons should be always max dmg and insc. Never seen a Eternal Blade or Draconic aegis lacking 1 dmg/armor ....
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #33
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http://i28.tinypic.com/s2tok3.jpg

not terrible mods but still not inscribable
Thanks for the confirmation, I'm kinda sceptical . What a shame.
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Old Sep 09, 2009, 09:44 PM // 21:44   #34
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I've seen weapon drops that are 1 off on the max, but never only 1 off on the min (hunting for inscribable r7/8's). When the min was 1 off, the max was also at least 1-2 off. This does sound a bit buggy to me. I assume this is dropping in HM as well?

FWIW, 14-28 is 21 avg, 15-28 is 21.5 avg, so ~2.5% lower damage on average...
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 01:12 AM // 01:12   #35
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If you're offering less than the "market" value of the item, you have to watch out very carefully for players offering non-max items.
But in the end, trading is merely an agreement between two parties: the seller, and the buyer. There really isn't a so called "market value", it's just would you want to wait for days on end to sell one item or just get rid of it quickly, at a reasonable price. But a little below the max damage and a cheaper price for a dryad bow isn't too bad if the price margin is high.
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 06:22 AM // 06:22   #36
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I've seen many a non-max weapon come from FoW/UW,Also including a few uninscribable, no rare skins though without max damage.

And Afaik the Old deathsbane bug was fixed, so uninscribable seems random to my knowledge...because I've seen a eternal blade with no inherent mod, and then one with a 14^stance.
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 06:53 AM // 06:53   #37
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I've seen weapon drops that are 1 off on the max, but never only 1 off on the min (hunting for inscribable r7/8's). When the min was 1 off, the max was also at least 1-2 off. This does sound a bit buggy to me. I assume this is dropping in HM as well?
Damage is derived from requirement, that is all: there is no 'hm' or 'chest' or even 'color' modifier that seems to affect damage ranges.

q8 can get very rarely max (on focii for example).
q9 is mostly max, but not guaranteed.
q10 and larger is guaranteed max.

As i understand it, item generation code starts with rolling req, deriving inherent mods from it, then independently rolling color and deriving exchangeable mods from it.

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FWIW, 14-28 is 21 avg, 15-28 is 21.5 avg, so ~2.5% lower damage on average...
Taking height advantage into account and raw damage modifiers (asuran scan and such), 0.5 can grow to solid 2 damage per hit, but of course still staying same percentage of damage and dps.
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 07:03 AM // 07:03   #38
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I keep getting that! Hell I got a 14-20 emerald sword from Kathandrax. I was so pissed off I salvaged it. At least it had a perfect +30 fortitude. Had my first dungeon-only max damage drop yesterday though. r11 clockwork scythe ^^
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 09:12 AM // 09:12   #39
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Wow, this thread reminded me of my non-max silverwing recurve bow that I had to sell for half the original price... I cried so much on the inside. The fact that anything drops non-max in an end chest is a cruel joke.
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It seems kinda like a bug to me. High end chests drop always R9-13 so weapons should be always max dmg and insc. Never seen a Eternal Blade or Draconic aegis lacking 1 dmg/armor ....
and this

i got into an argument with someone today. i said that all voltaic spears are max damage and he said hes seen "plenty" that weren't. can anyone share some info?
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 09:52 AM // 09:52   #40
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This argument is irrelevant since all Dryad Bows look crap. Lolololo

Honestly though, most people hardly pay attention, just find some moron and sell it to him for 150e. I sold a q10 or something that wasn't max for that, since I was scammed out of an Obsidian Edge for it.
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